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# DNS Operations (DNSOP) Working Group
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## interim-2021-dnsop-03
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### Chairs
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* Benno Overeinder [benno@nlnetlabs.nl](benno@nlnetlabs.nl)
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* Suzanne Woolf [suzworldwide@gmail.com](suzworldwide@gmail.com)
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* Tim Wicinski [tjw.ietf@gmail.com](tjw.ietf@gmail.com)
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### IESG Overlord
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* Warren Kumari [warren@kumari.net](warren@kumari.net)
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### Document Status
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* [Github](https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/wg-materials/blob/main/dnsop-document-status.md)
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* [Datatracker](https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dnsop/documents/)
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* [Propose Slides](https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-dnsop-03/session/dnsop)
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## Session interim-2021-dnsop-03
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* Date: 15 December 2021
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* Time: 17:00-18:00 UTC
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* MeetEcho: [https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=d57b1252-6a56-4941-93a2-fc6e409b0eff](https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=d57b1252-6a56-4941-93a2-fc6e409b0eff)
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* Jabber: [dnsop@jabber.ietf.org](dnsop@jabber.ietf.org)
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* Minutes: [https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2021-dnsop-03-dnsop](https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2021-dnsop-03-dnsop)
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## Agenda
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### Administrivia
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* Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, 5 min
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### Current Working Group Business
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* DNS Terminology
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- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/
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- Paul Hoffman, 30 min
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- Chairs Action:
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Only two open discussion points
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- Glue
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- Baliwick
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PH: We appear to be mixing up the definitions and glue
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PH: Keep separate DNS Protocol vs. Registry Requirements.
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Matthijs: perhaps a new definition of glue for the later definition of glue (2181).
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Fujiwara: Definition of glue between terminolgy and glue-is-not-optional draft should be in sync
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Suzanne Woolf: Sometimes we document a term is used ambigiously.
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PH: Have an entry for bailiwick that says this is not a useful term. It seems that people feel Glue
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is a useful term.
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Warren Kumari: Woudl be nice to have
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* Delegation Revalidation by DNS Resolvers,
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- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-ns-revalidation/
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- Shumon Huque, Paul Vixie and Puneet Sood, 25 min
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- Chairs Actions:
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Warren: What is missing from the original resimprove
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Paul Vixie: There were three topics 1) NXDOMAIn is NXDOMAIN; 2) this point; and 3) one more obscure point
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