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# DNS Operations (DNSOP) Working Group
## interim-2021-dnsop-03
### Chairs
* Benno Overeinder [benno@nlnetlabs.nl](benno@nlnetlabs.nl)
* Suzanne Woolf [suzworldwide@gmail.com](suzworldwide@gmail.com)
* Tim Wicinski [tjw.ietf@gmail.com](tjw.ietf@gmail.com)
### IESG Overlord
* Warren Kumari [warren@kumari.net](warren@kumari.net)
### Document Status
* [Github](https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/wg-materials/blob/main/dnsop-document-status.md)
* [Datatracker](https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dnsop/documents/)
* [Propose Slides](https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-dnsop-03/session/dnsop)
## Session interim-2021-dnsop-03
* Date: 15 December 2021
* Time: 17:00-18:00 UTC
* MeetEcho: [https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=d57b1252-6a56-4941-93a2-fc6e409b0eff](https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=d57b1252-6a56-4941-93a2-fc6e409b0eff)
* Jabber: [dnsop@jabber.ietf.org](dnsop@jabber.ietf.org)
* Minutes: [https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2021-dnsop-03-dnsop](https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2021-dnsop-03-dnsop)
## Agenda
### Administrivia
* Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, 5 min
### Current Working Group Business
* DNS Terminology
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/
- Paul Hoffman, 30 min
- Chairs Action:
Only two open discussion points
- Glue
- Baliwick
PH: We appear to be mixing up the definitions and glue
PH: Keep separate DNS Protocol vs. Registry Requirements.
Matthijs: perhaps a new definition of glue for the later definition of glue (2181).
Fujiwara: Definition of glue between terminolgy and glue-is-not-optional draft should be in sync
Suzanne Woolf: Sometimes we document a term is used ambigiously.
PH: Have an entry for bailiwick that says this is not a useful term. It seems that people feel Glue
is a useful term.
Warren Kumari: Woudl be nice to have
* Delegation Revalidation by DNS Resolvers,
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-ns-revalidation/
- Shumon Huque, Paul Vixie and Puneet Sood, 25 min
- Chairs Actions:
Warren: What is missing from the original resimprove
Paul Vixie: There were three topics 1) NXDOMAIn is NXDOMAIN; 2) this point; and 3) one more obscure point