From 3df092f7c53c74b977acdb29efd2962fd589a683 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tim Wicinski Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 19:53:12 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] 107 second session attendees/minutes --- dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-attendees-2.txt | 75 +++++++++++++++++++++ dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-minutes-2.txt | 75 +++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 150 insertions(+) create mode 100644 dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-attendees-2.txt create mode 100644 dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-minutes-2.txt diff --git a/dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-attendees-2.txt b/dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-attendees-2.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..608cb31 --- /dev/null +++ b/dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-attendees-2.txt @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +Attendee List +========== +Willem Toorop - NLnet Labs +Zaid AlBanna - Verisign +Paul Ebersman - Neustar +Yoshiro YONEYA - JPRS +Hugo Salgado - NIC Chile +Marc Groeneweg - SIDN +Paul Hoffman - ICANN +David Kinzel - Shaw Communications +Vladimir Cunat - cz.nic +Mike StJohns +Matthijs Mekking - ISC +Stephen Morris - ISC +Peter van Dijk - PowerDNS +Eric Orth - Google +Dmitry Belyavskiy - TCI +Jordan A. Borgner - self +Valery Smyslov, ELVIS-PLUS +有道词典 +@gmail.com * Su ... +详细X +Scott Hollenbeck, Verisign +James Gould, Verisign +Tim April, Akamai Technologies +Brian Haberman, Johns Hopkins +Moritz Müller - SIDN Labs +Peter Koch, DENIC eG +Joey Salazar, ARTICLE 19 +Petr Špaček, CZ.NIC +João Damas, APNIC +Mike Bishop, Akamai +Mark Andrews, ISC +Ralph Dolmans, NLnet Labs +Richard Wilhelm, Verisign +Duane Wessels, Verisign +David Blacka, Verisign +Stéphane Bortzmeyer, AFNIC +Kazunori Fujiwara, JPRS +Joe Abley, PIR +John Border, Hughes +Matthew Pounsett, DNS-OARC +Puneet Sood, Google +chi-jiun su, hughes network systems +tim costello, BT +Manu Bretelle, Facebook +Jorge Cano, NIC Mexico +Dan York, Internet Society +Donald Eastalke, Futurewei Technologies +Jim Reid RTFM llp +d d E +Tim Wattenberg +Glenn Deen Comcast-NBCUniversal +John Levine, Standcore LLC +Vittorio Bertola, Open-Xchange +Sam Weiler, W3C/MIT +Warren Kumari, Google +56. Sergey Myasoedov, NetArt Group +57. Shumon Huque, Salesforce +58. Ted Hardie, Google +59. https://datatracker.ietf.org/person/Michael%20Richardson +60. Bob Harold, University of Michigan +61. Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC +62. Michelle Cotton, IANA +63. Michael Breuer, ilSF +64. tale, Oracle +65. Dan McArdle, Google/Chrome +66. Sara Dickinson, Sinodun +67. Pieter Lexis, PowerDNS +68. Tom Pusateri, Unaffiliated +69. paul vixie +70. Ulrich Wisser, .SE +71. Daniel Migault Ericsson +72. Amelia Andersdotter CENTR +73. Tim Wicinski, unaffiliated diff --git a/dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-minutes-2.txt b/dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-minutes-2.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..a8b86bc --- /dev/null +++ b/dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-minutes-2.txt @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ + +# DNS Operations (DNSOP) Working Group +## interim-2020-dnsop-02 +### 23 April 2020, 1500 - 1600 UTC + +### Chairs +* Tim Wicinski [tjw.ietf@gmail.com](tjw.ietf@gmail.com) +* Suzanne Woolf [suzworldwide@gmail.com](suzworldwide@gmail.com) +* Benno Overeinder [benno@nlnetlabs.nl](benno@nlnetlabs.nl) + + +Benno went over the agenda, said that it was expected to run over time + +YANG Types for DNS Classes and Resource Record Types, Ladislav Lhotka + https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang/ + Thinks this is ready for WG LC, but also needs a review by the YANG doctors + Joe Abley: If IANA is not ready for keeping modules like this, could be hinging + Ladislav: IANA already has some registries, but not like this one + There were objections, particularly from Paul Wouters + Only thing not clear is whether this publication mechanism is acceptable to IANA + Michelle Cotton (IANA): IANA has been testing it out + Haven't seen the document yet, would like to do an early review + Will do an early review + +Interoperable Domain Name System (DNS) Server Cookies, Willem Toorop + https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies/ + First slide has the obligitory photo of yummy-looking cookies + Marc Groenewg: When will the NSD implementation be available? + Willem: Soonish, but waiting for RFC + Benno (NSD hat): Will implement when there is an RFC + Benno (chair hat): will schedule WG Last Call soon + +DNS TIMEOUT Resource Record, Tom Pusateri + https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout/ + Joe: Another use for an RRtype is to troubshoot + Likes this better than an EDNS0 type + Maybe do this just for RRsets instead of hash + Mark Andrews: Definitely need the hash for regeneration of timeout records + Such as for Bonjour + Jim Reid: Do you need to signal hash algorithm? + Tom: Preference is to define a single hash + Registry in the draft + Uses "method" + Benno: Will have call for adoption in a few weeks + +Delegation Revalidation by DNS Resolvers, Shumon Huque + https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-huque-dnsop-ns-revalidation/ + Warren Kumari: There was other stuff in the "resimprove" work from the past that was useful + Shumon: This covers all the useful stuff + Stéphane Bortzmeyer: Also related to QNAME minimization + Some auth resolvers timeout on explicit NS queries + Ralf Dolmans: This draft is opportunistic, QNAME minimization would not conflic + Daniel Migault: Likes this kind of work + Why consider capping based on the NS record in the parent instead of the DS + Shumon: Can't do that unless DNSSEC is universally deployed, which it isn't + Can't rely on DS being the same + Paul Vixie: Could add DS adding this into the revalidating equation + But this is already what a validator will do + Mark: BIND has already done this for a decade + Benno: Wants more discussion on mailing list, then WG call later (but before Madrid) + Suzanne: Wants to see a -01, then call for adoption + +Use of GOST 2012 Signature Algorithms in DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource Records for DNSSEC, Dmitry Belyavsky + https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-belyavskiy-rfc5933-bis/ + Stanislav Smyshlyaev: Supports work for crypto agaility + Can be used at least inside Russia + Valery Smyslov: Supports this change because old algorithm is deprecated + Jim: Supports work + Wants references to old ones to be deprecated + Warren: Wanted this to got through DNSOP, not AD-sponsored + Does it work with DNSSEC, not have discussions on the algorithm itself + Benno: Will schedule call for adoption + +Summary of meeting, Benno + Summarized the upcoming calls for adoptions