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DNSOP WG
Interim meeting 2024-01-30 1700 UTC
Chairs: Benno Overeinder, Suzanne Woolf, Tim Wicinski
Minutes taken by Paul Hoffman
Only stuff said that happened at the mic is reported here
Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2024-dnsop
Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2024-dnsop-01/session/dnsop
Intro from the chairs
This interim is for bootstrapping the topic before IETF119
Presentation on state of DELEG draft, Ralf Weber
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnsop-deleg/
Legacy resolver compliance testing results, Roy Arends
Open discussion points in the draft
Viktor Dukovni: Didn't see Microsoft's resolver tested; very different in origin
Found the draft more confusing than illuminating
Examples are haphazard
Wants reorganization
Wants a motivations document; what problem are we solving
Roy: Maybe split the document into different topics
This document is core
Another document can have all the offerings
Another document that gives an introduction to the whole thing
This is a -00
Ralf: Wanted to get it ready for the interim
OK with splitting out motivations into a different draft
Suzanne: this discussion is not about specifics in the draft
Initial reflections on DELEG, Paul Wouters
Open discussion: discussion and reflection on interim
Suzanne: Process discussion not today
Ralf: PaulW's proposal #1 didn't want to do this to prolong DELEG
Can happen in parallel
There are plenty of implementations that don't share names
Viktor:
The idea of having more records at the parent needs motivation, but seems mostly harmless
Putting more records puts more pressure on resolvers under attack
Warren Kumari: Process-related
BoF request was for extensions
IESG doesn't feel that you can have a BoF for something that doesn't exist
Wants the BoF to be about DELEG itself
No assumption that people have been at interim
Maybe a WG-forming BoF
Need to be careful that DNSOPs folks participate
Thus, in OPS
Scheduled right after DNSOP so that there is overlap
Roy: Will talk with Warren about the BoF request
Viktor: Make the draft shorter and clearer
Benno: Keep contributing to the DNSOP mailing list, specific text can go into the repo
Peter Thomassen: Where to discuss this?
Benno: On the mailing list
Suzanne: This helps identify new work that might be spun off
Benno: Protocol discussion on the mailing list
Ralf: People coming early to DNS-OARC next week, there is an informal room on Wednesday