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# DNSOP Chairs Status
#### Updated: 17 July 2018
### Updated: 25 July 2018
Official document list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dnsop/documents/
This Document: https://github.com/DNSOP/wg-materials/blob/master/dnsop-document-status.txt
Questions, Concerns, etc: dnsop-chairs at ietf.org
## IESG Queue
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns
* draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel
* draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix
## Limbo
* draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld
- Held by WG.
- Pending guidance from the IESG/IAB
* draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
- Parked
## WG Chairs Work
* draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel
- awaiting write up
* draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
- awaiting write-up
* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
- awaiting write up
* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix
- awaiting write up
* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format
- Revision to address version numbers and math
## In WG Last Call
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- WGLC Ends 20 Friday 2018
- Consensus is extremely rough
* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format
- WGLC Ends 20 Friday 2018
* draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost
- Waiting on Authors since 2018-02-19
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## Adopted
* draft-ietf-dnsop-aname
- Authors getting editing help
* draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale
- May be too contentious
* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements
- Section 4 and 5.3 TODOs, John and Duane are working on
* draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
- Needs to be updated to reflect DOH
* draft-huque-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec
## Expired Adopted Documents
* draft-ietf-dnsop-aname
* draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error
- Last list discussion was 2017-11-07
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## Call for Adoption
* draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis
* draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis
## Candidates For Adoption
* draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis
* draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes
* draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest
* draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis
* draft-song-atr-large-resp
## Documents Worth Considering
* draft-jabley-dnsop-bootstrap-validator
- Signs point to yes
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* draft-spacek-edns-camel-diet
## New Documents
## Needs more Review
## Not At This Time
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* draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones
- considered but WG passed on
* draft-bellis-dnsop-xpf
- No significant interest
* draft-gavrichenkov-dnsop-dnssapi
* draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr

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How complex should the signaling be?
Giovane Moura: Should go to see presentation in MAPRG tomorrow
### Chairs Action: Needs More Review
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APNIC research is useless
We are making amplification attacks worse
We have no intent to implement and is against adoption
## Chairs Action: Some interest but not enough for adoption at this time
### Chairs Action: Some interest but not enough for adoption at this time
draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr, Tariq Saraj
Mark: Zero interest in implementing with this
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Ondřej: This is about IDR
Pushing provisioning problems into the DNS
Should not be implemented
## Chairs Action: No Interest
### Chairs Action: No Interest
draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest, Wes Hardaker
George: Remove "Merkle trees"
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Mark: It is possible to do something similar: hash just the delegation points
Will work with dynamic updates
Also can loose RRSIGs
## Chairs Action: Interest in continuing, multiple implementations.
### Chairs Action: Interest in continuing, multiple implementations.
draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis, Paul Hoffman-Kumari
Geoff: Imagine I'm on a server on a host, I'm multi-homed, and forwards from IP to the other. Am I breaking the rules?
Paul: Question for the doc.
Geoff: What if I have 3 IPs? You're trying to constrain the moment. You can't apply constraint.
Paul: We should discuss this in the document.
Shane: Aggressive NSEC now published, should reduce temptation...
Paul: Why?
Shane: All cache misses will be handled Locally...
Paul: One reason of 7706 is to preserve privacy. If you pull the root and pre-loading, nothing leaks.
Shane: Will send text on performance
Andrew: If people do weird things, no protocol police...
Paul: Fairies but not police
Wes: IETF document what people do on the internet. We should adopt
Ray: Don't care on restrictions, local mirror of root zone is more important.
Ondrej: Feel more Strongly than Ray and Andrew, don't understand why its wrong.
Peter (via Dan): All Major Resolvers decided not to 7706 directly, so update is necessary. adopt
Lars: Can change the keys.
## Chairs Action: Sounds like Interest in Contuining
### Chairs Action: Interest in adoption
### Chairs Action: Sounds like Interest in Contuining