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# DNSOP Chairs Status # DNSOP Chairs Status
#### Updated: 17 July 2018 ### Updated: 25 July 2018
Official document list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dnsop/documents/ Official document list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dnsop/documents/
This Document: https://github.com/DNSOP/wg-materials/blob/master/dnsop-document-status.txt
Questions, Concerns, etc: dnsop-chairs at ietf.org
## IESG Queue ## IESG Queue
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns * draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns
* draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel
* draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix
## Limbo ## Limbo
* draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld * draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld
- Held by WG. - Held by WG.
- Pending guidance from the IESG/IAB - Pending guidance from the IESG/IAB
* draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
- Parked
## WG Chairs Work ## WG Chairs Work
* draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel * draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format
- awaiting write up - Revision to address version numbers and math
* draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
- awaiting write-up
* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
- awaiting write up
* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix
- awaiting write up
## In WG Last Call ## In WG Last Call
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- WGLC Ends 20 Friday 2018 - WGLC Ends 20 Friday 2018
- Consensus is extremely rough - Consensus is extremely rough
* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format
- WGLC Ends 20 Friday 2018
* draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost * draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost
- Waiting on Authors since 2018-02-19 - Waiting on Authors since 2018-02-19
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## Adopted ## Adopted
* draft-ietf-dnsop-aname
- Authors getting editing help
* draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale * draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale
- May be too contentious - May be too contentious
* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements * draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements
- Section 4 and 5.3 TODOs, John and Duane are working on - Section 4 and 5.3 TODOs, John and Duane are working on
* draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
- Needs to be updated to reflect DOH
* draft-huque-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec * draft-huque-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec
## Expired Adopted Documents ## Expired Adopted Documents
* draft-ietf-dnsop-aname
* draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error * draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error
- Last list discussion was 2017-11-07 - Last list discussion was 2017-11-07
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## Call for Adoption ## Call for Adoption
* draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis
* draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis
## Candidates For Adoption ## Candidates For Adoption
* draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis
* draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes * draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes
* draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest * draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest
* draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis
* draft-song-atr-large-resp * draft-song-atr-large-resp
## Documents Worth Considering ## Documents Worth Considering
* draft-jabley-dnsop-bootstrap-validator * draft-jabley-dnsop-bootstrap-validator
- Signs point to yes - Signs point to yes
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* draft-spacek-edns-camel-diet * draft-spacek-edns-camel-diet
## New Documents ## New Documents
## Needs more Review ## Needs more Review
## Not At This Time ## Not At This Time
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* draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones * draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones
- considered but WG passed on - considered but WG passed on
* draft-bellis-dnsop-xpf
- No significant interest
* draft-gavrichenkov-dnsop-dnssapi
* draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr * draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr

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How complex should the signaling be? How complex should the signaling be?
Giovane Moura: Should go to see presentation in MAPRG tomorrow Giovane Moura: Should go to see presentation in MAPRG tomorrow
### Chairs Action: Needs More Review
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[[ Day 2 starts here ]] [[ Day 2 starts here ]]
@ -255,7 +256,8 @@ Peter van Dijk: ATR changes a best case from 2 packets into 5 packets
APNIC research is useless APNIC research is useless
We are making amplification attacks worse We are making amplification attacks worse
We have no intent to implement and is against adoption We have no intent to implement and is against adoption
## Chairs Action: Some interest but not enough for adoption at this time
### Chairs Action: Some interest but not enough for adoption at this time
draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr, Tariq Saraj draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr, Tariq Saraj
Mark: Zero interest in implementing with this Mark: Zero interest in implementing with this
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Ondřej: This is about IDR Ondřej: This is about IDR
Pushing provisioning problems into the DNS Pushing provisioning problems into the DNS
Should not be implemented Should not be implemented
## Chairs Action: No Interest
### Chairs Action: No Interest
draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest, Wes Hardaker draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest, Wes Hardaker
George: Remove "Merkle trees" George: Remove "Merkle trees"
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Mark: It is possible to do something similar: hash just the delegation points Mark: It is possible to do something similar: hash just the delegation points
Will work with dynamic updates Will work with dynamic updates
Also can loose RRSIGs Also can loose RRSIGs
## Chairs Action: Interest in continuing, multiple implementations.
### Chairs Action: Interest in continuing, multiple implementations.
draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis, Paul Hoffman-Kumari draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis, Paul Hoffman-Kumari
Geoff: Imagine I'm on a server on a host, I'm multi-homed, and forwards from IP to the other. Am I breaking the rules?
Paul: Question for the doc.
Geoff: What if I have 3 IPs? You're trying to constrain the moment. You can't apply constraint.
Paul: We should discuss this in the document.
Shane: Aggressive NSEC now published, should reduce temptation...
Paul: Why?
Shane: All cache misses will be handled Locally...
Paul: One reason of 7706 is to preserve privacy. If you pull the root and pre-loading, nothing leaks.
Shane: Will send text on performance
Andrew: If people do weird things, no protocol police...
Paul: Fairies but not police
Wes: IETF document what people do on the internet. We should adopt
Ray: Don't care on restrictions, local mirror of root zone is more important.
Ondrej: Feel more Strongly than Ray and Andrew, don't understand why its wrong.
Peter (via Dan): All Major Resolvers decided not to 7706 directly, so update is necessary. adopt
Lars: Can change the keys.
## Chairs Action: Sounds like Interest in Contuining ### Chairs Action: Interest in adoption
### Chairs Action: Sounds like Interest in Contuining