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# DNSOP Chairs Status
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# DNSOP Chairs Status
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#### Updated: 17 July 2018
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### Updated: 25 July 2018
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Official document list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dnsop/documents/
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Official document list: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/dnsop/documents/
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This Document: https://github.com/DNSOP/wg-materials/blob/master/dnsop-document-status.txt
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Questions, Concerns, etc: dnsop-chairs at ietf.org
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## IESG Queue
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## IESG Queue
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix
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## Limbo
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## Limbo
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld
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- Held by WG.
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- Held by WG.
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- Pending guidance from the IESG/IAB
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- Pending guidance from the IESG/IAB
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* draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
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- Parked
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## WG Chairs Work
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## WG Chairs Work
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format
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- awaiting write up
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- Revision to address version numbers and math
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis
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- awaiting write-up
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf
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- awaiting write up
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf-fix
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- awaiting write up
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## In WG Last Call
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## In WG Last Call
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- WGLC Ends 20 Friday 2018
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- WGLC Ends 20 Friday 2018
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- Consensus is extremely rough
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- Consensus is extremely rough
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-capture-format
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- WGLC Ends 20 Friday 2018
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost
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- Waiting on Authors since 2018-02-19
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- Waiting on Authors since 2018-02-19
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## Adopted
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## Adopted
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-aname
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- Authors getting editing help
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale
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- May be too contentious
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- May be too contentious
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-tcp-requirements
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- Section 4 and 5.3 TODOs, John and Duane are working on
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- Section 4 and 5.3 TODOs, John and Duane are working on
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* draft-song-dns-wireformat-http
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- Needs to be updated to reflect DOH
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* draft-huque-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec
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* draft-huque-dnsop-multi-provider-dnssec
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## Expired Adopted Documents
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## Expired Adopted Documents
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-aname
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error
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* draft-ietf-dnsop-extended-error
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- Last list discussion was 2017-11-07
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- Last list discussion was 2017-11-07
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## Call for Adoption
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## Call for Adoption
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* draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis
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* draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis
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## Candidates For Adoption
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## Candidates For Adoption
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* draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis
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* draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes
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* draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes
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* draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest
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* draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest
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* draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis
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* draft-song-atr-large-resp
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* draft-song-atr-large-resp
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## Documents Worth Considering
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## Documents Worth Considering
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* draft-jabley-dnsop-bootstrap-validator
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* draft-jabley-dnsop-bootstrap-validator
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- Signs point to yes
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- Signs point to yes
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* draft-spacek-edns-camel-diet
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* draft-spacek-edns-camel-diet
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## New Documents
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## New Documents
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## Needs more Review
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## Needs more Review
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## Not At This Time
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## Not At This Time
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* draft-muks-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones
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- considered but WG passed on
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- considered but WG passed on
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* draft-bellis-dnsop-xpf
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- No significant interest
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* draft-gavrichenkov-dnsop-dnssapi
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* draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr
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How complex should the signaling be?
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How complex should the signaling be?
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Giovane Moura: Should go to see presentation in MAPRG tomorrow
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Giovane Moura: Should go to see presentation in MAPRG tomorrow
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### Chairs Action: Needs More Review
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[[ Day 2 starts here ]]
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[[ Day 2 starts here ]]
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APNIC research is useless
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APNIC research is useless
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We are making amplification attacks worse
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We have no intent to implement and is against adoption
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We have no intent to implement and is against adoption
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## Chairs Action: Some interest but not enough for adoption at this time
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### Chairs Action: Some interest but not enough for adoption at this time
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draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr, Tariq Saraj
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draft-tariq-dnsop-iviptr, Tariq Saraj
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Mark: Zero interest in implementing with this
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Mark: Zero interest in implementing with this
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Ondřej: This is about IDR
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Ondřej: This is about IDR
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Pushing provisioning problems into the DNS
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Pushing provisioning problems into the DNS
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Should not be implemented
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## Chairs Action: No Interest
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draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest, Wes Hardaker
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draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest, Wes Hardaker
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George: Remove "Merkle trees"
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George: Remove "Merkle trees"
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Mark: It is possible to do something similar: hash just the delegation points
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Mark: It is possible to do something similar: hash just the delegation points
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Will work with dynamic updates
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Will work with dynamic updates
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Also can loose RRSIGs
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## Chairs Action: Interest in continuing, multiple implementations.
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### Chairs Action: Interest in continuing, multiple implementations.
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draft-kh-dnsop-7706bis, Paul Hoffman-Kumari
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Geoff: Imagine I'm on a server on a host, I'm multi-homed, and forwards from IP to the other. Am I breaking the rules?
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Geoff: What if I have 3 IPs? You're trying to constrain the moment. You can't apply constraint.
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Paul: We should discuss this in the document.
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Shane: Aggressive NSEC now published, should reduce temptation...
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Shane: All cache misses will be handled Locally...
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Paul: One reason of 7706 is to preserve privacy. If you pull the root and pre-loading, nothing leaks.
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Paul: Fairies but not police
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Wes: IETF document what people do on the internet. We should adopt
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### Chairs Action: Sounds like Interest in Contuining
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