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Attendee List
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Willem Toorop - NLnet Labs
Zaid AlBanna - Verisign
Paul Ebersman - Neustar
Yoshiro YONEYA - JPRS
Hugo Salgado - NIC Chile
Marc Groeneweg - SIDN
Paul Hoffman - ICANN
David Kinzel - Shaw Communications
Vladimir Cunat - cz.nic
Mike StJohns
Matthijs Mekking - ISC
Stephen Morris - ISC
Peter van Dijk - PowerDNS
Eric Orth - Google
Dmitry Belyavskiy - TCI
Jordan A. Borgner - self
Valery Smyslov, ELVIS-PLUS
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Scott Hollenbeck, Verisign
James Gould, Verisign
Tim April, Akamai Technologies
Brian Haberman, Johns Hopkins
Moritz Müller - SIDN Labs
Peter Koch, DENIC eG
Joey Salazar, ARTICLE 19
Petr Špaček, CZ.NIC
João Damas, APNIC
Mike Bishop, Akamai
Mark Andrews, ISC
Ralph Dolmans, NLnet Labs
Richard Wilhelm, Verisign
Duane Wessels, Verisign
David Blacka, Verisign
Stéphane Bortzmeyer, AFNIC
Kazunori Fujiwara, JPRS
Joe Abley, PIR
John Border, Hughes
Matthew Pounsett, DNS-OARC
Puneet Sood, Google
chi-jiun su, hughes network systems
tim costello, BT
Manu Bretelle, Facebook
Jorge Cano, NIC Mexico
Dan York, Internet Society
Donald Eastalke, Futurewei Technologies
Jim Reid RTFM llp
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Tim Wattenberg
Glenn Deen Comcast-NBCUniversal
John Levine, Standcore LLC
Vittorio Bertola, Open-Xchange
Sam Weiler, W3C/MIT
Warren Kumari, Google
56. Sergey Myasoedov, NetArt Group
57. Shumon Huque, Salesforce
58. Ted Hardie, Google
59. https://datatracker.ietf.org/person/Michael%20Richardson
60. Bob Harold, University of Michigan
61. Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC
62. Michelle Cotton, IANA
63. Michael Breuer, ilSF
64. tale, Oracle
65. Dan McArdle, Google/Chrome
66. Sara Dickinson, Sinodun
67. Pieter Lexis, PowerDNS
68. Tom Pusateri, Unaffiliated
69. paul vixie
70. Ulrich Wisser, .SE
71. Daniel Migault Ericsson
72. Amelia Andersdotter CENTR
73. Tim Wicinski, unaffiliated

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# DNS Operations (DNSOP) Working Group
## interim-2020-dnsop-02
### 23 April 2020, 1500 - 1600 UTC
### Chairs
* Tim Wicinski [tjw.ietf@gmail.com](tjw.ietf@gmail.com)
* Suzanne Woolf [suzworldwide@gmail.com](suzworldwide@gmail.com)
* Benno Overeinder [benno@nlnetlabs.nl](benno@nlnetlabs.nl)
Benno went over the agenda, said that it was expected to run over time
YANG Types for DNS Classes and Resource Record Types, Ladislav Lhotka
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang/
Thinks this is ready for WG LC, but also needs a review by the YANG doctors
Joe Abley: If IANA is not ready for keeping modules like this, could be hinging
Ladislav: IANA already has some registries, but not like this one
There were objections, particularly from Paul Wouters
Only thing not clear is whether this publication mechanism is acceptable to IANA
Michelle Cotton (IANA): IANA has been testing it out
Haven't seen the document yet, would like to do an early review
Will do an early review
Interoperable Domain Name System (DNS) Server Cookies, Willem Toorop
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies/
First slide has the obligitory photo of yummy-looking cookies
Marc Groenewg: When will the NSD implementation be available?
Willem: Soonish, but waiting for RFC
Benno (NSD hat): Will implement when there is an RFC
Benno (chair hat): will schedule WG Last Call soon
DNS TIMEOUT Resource Record, Tom Pusateri
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout/
Joe: Another use for an RRtype is to troubshoot
Likes this better than an EDNS0 type
Maybe do this just for RRsets instead of hash
Mark Andrews: Definitely need the hash for regeneration of timeout records
Such as for Bonjour
Jim Reid: Do you need to signal hash algorithm?
Tom: Preference is to define a single hash
Registry in the draft
Uses "method"
Benno: Will have call for adoption in a few weeks
Delegation Revalidation by DNS Resolvers, Shumon Huque
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-huque-dnsop-ns-revalidation/
Warren Kumari: There was other stuff in the "resimprove" work from the past that was useful
Shumon: This covers all the useful stuff
Stéphane Bortzmeyer: Also related to QNAME minimization
Some auth resolvers timeout on explicit NS queries
Ralf Dolmans: This draft is opportunistic, QNAME minimization would not conflic
Daniel Migault: Likes this kind of work
Why consider capping based on the NS record in the parent instead of the DS
Shumon: Can't do that unless DNSSEC is universally deployed, which it isn't
Can't rely on DS being the same
Paul Vixie: Could add DS adding this into the revalidating equation
But this is already what a validator will do
Mark: BIND has already done this for a decade
Benno: Wants more discussion on mailing list, then WG call later (but before Madrid)
Suzanne: Wants to see a -01, then call for adoption
Use of GOST 2012 Signature Algorithms in DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource Records for DNSSEC, Dmitry Belyavsky
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-belyavskiy-rfc5933-bis/
Stanislav Smyshlyaev: Supports work for crypto agaility
Can be used at least inside Russia
Valery Smyslov: Supports this change because old algorithm is deprecated
Jim: Supports work
Wants references to old ones to be deprecated
Warren: Wanted this to got through DNSOP, not AD-sponsored
Does it work with DNSSEC, not have discussions on the algorithm itself
Benno: Will schedule call for adoption
Summary of meeting, Benno
Summarized the upcoming calls for adoptions